This weeks Quantum includes Pharrel; Nagorno-Karabakh; Myanmar; Japan, Australia and China; Boris Gaffes; Leaving New York; Anne Hathaway; Cancelling the Cancel Conference; Melissa McCarthy; The Friendly Northerner; Lewis Hamilton; O Flower of Scotland; Parler, O Happy Day.
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David, there are reports surfacing about the Astra Zeneca Covid-19 vaccine containing tissue from legally aborted foetuses. Have you seen this? Worth checking out?
Nah. Stem cells taken from one abortion, decades ago have been used to generate daughter cells, which have produced daughter cells etc, and some of those have been involved in the *development* (not ingredients) of the vaccine. Stem cells descended from the same abortion have been used in other research also.
The abortion did not happen for the vaccine; the research has not used cells that were part of the aborted body; vaccines will not contain foetal cells; and rejecting the vaccine will not save any abortion victims.
“Stem cells taken from one abortion, decades ago have been used to generate daughter cells, which have produced daughter cells etc, and some of those have been involved in the *development* (not ingredients) of the vaccine.”
What that statement is telling us is that the ‘development’ (whatever that means) is linked to an abortion. The use of the terms ‘daughter cells’ and ‘some’ is a red herring. They do not deny the role of the abortion.
“Stem cells descended from the same abortion have been used in other research also.”
Not sure what significance, if any, that statement is supposed to convey. Two wrongs do not make a right. It sounds rather like the juvenile argument that it was okay for me to steal something just because everybody else was doing it.
“The abortion did not happen for the vaccine. This is an interesting argument. I’m not an expert in moral theology. There may be some merit in it. But can the use of something be justified on the basis of this argument? If it is a valid argument then it can be used to justify any use of stem cells from aborted foetuses.”
“the research has not used cells that were part of the aborted body” Maybe so, but is that relevant?
“vaccines will not contain foetal cells”. Maybe so, but is that relevant?
“rejecting the vaccine will not save any abortion victims”. True, but is that relevant?
Last night I watched a programme about the ‘Angel of Death’, Dr Josef Mengele. He was a doctor at Auschwitz Concentration Camp from 1943. While he was there he carried out genetic tests, especially on twins. Most of his victims died from his experiments on them. Let us suppose that a vaccine against some disease resulted from these experiments. Would we be justified in arguing for the use of the vaccine on the basis that using the vaccine would not bring back the victims of the experiments?
As I say, I am not an expert in moral theology and do not wish to reach any conclusion about the morality of using vaccines which have been ‘developed’ using stem cells which originated in an abortion. But I do not think the arguments which Grace puts forward are very persuasive.
I’ve been following your podcasts/debates and blogs for a while now. I appreciate the insight you provide. Thank you also for the coverage you did on your podcast about Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh – as us Armenians would call it). Your summary about the conflict was spot on, especially as to what Erdogan is trying to achieve. His ethnoreligious convictions are incredibly toxic and dangerous. The committed Christian Armenians believe the conflict had a spiritual warfare dimension. This was clearly manifested when the Azeri’s started entering every city they took over by singing Allah-o-Akbar and desecrating churches and homes.
Of course, some of these hideous acts are motivated by their religion and mostly fueled by their ethnic convictions. We are witnessing a modern-day cultural genocide purely because it reminds the Azeris of Armenian culture and creed. Just to put in context, in Artsakh, there are around 92 churches and monasteries with an average age of 7th-century dating. And starting from the year 2001, Armenians built 14 churches. So naturally, their first target is these churches. There are plenty of materials on the internet to authenticate their acts.
Armenian history is tightly weaved with Christianity (being the first nation to accept Christianity 301AD) – except for a brief interruption during the soviet time. Armenians have never abandoned presenting this symbiotic relationship through arts, hymns, music, architecture, and literature.
Armenians (nominal Christians and committed alike) have never forgotten how Christianity plays a pivotal and positive role in preserving the Armenian DNA and overcoming the 1st genocide of the 20th century (The 1915 Armenian genocide committed by the Ottomans)
I ask you to keep us in your prayers. And if you could be gracious enough to be vocal about the conflict in your future podcasts. Perhaps it might encourage other western Christians to see how Christianity can positively influence a nation’s progress. And maybe you can be that one additional voice who can make a difference in exposing the Azeris’ committed war crimes with the help of Turks and hired jihadi fighters.
May God bless you and the work you do.