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Coffee and Revelation 67 – The Wine of God’s Fury

Revelation 14:9-11 – The wine of God’s fury? Torment in the presence of the Lamb? It is horrific imagery….How do we understand it?

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Coffee and Revelation 66 – Babylon is Fallen


  1. The somber realities of the offer of grace! Jer.5:31 was in the back of my mind whilst you were speaking: “The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end?” To neglect preaching the reality of grace preserving us from the righteous judgement of the Lord is the damp rot of our pulpits here in the CofE. Today’s reading from Revelation clearly ‘heavy’ for you, but thank you for your faithfulness.

  2. So very true David, every word of what you say.

    A difficult topic for sure, but one that cannot be avoided or tiptoed around. It never ceases to amaze me how the modern institutionalised church is so keen to downplay the whole subject of hell. Hell is a reality, otherwise Jesus would not have mentioned it as often as he did and he certainly leaves us in no doubt about it being a horrific destination.

    The church today is too busy ‘majoring on the minors and minoring on the majors’, when they should be spelling out the truth in simple plain language. Far too much effort being spent on devising fanciful strategies and silly goals rather than just telling it like it is… whether people want to hear it or not!

  3. Yes indeed it is a hard pill to understand and swallow. Regarding training for reaching out to others. I tend to think that if your conversion is genuine then there follows a natural desire to tell others what great things the Lord has done for you. Genuine conversion brings about repentance and a desire to walk in newness of life coupled with a hunger and thirst to read and study the Scriptures. Seemingly General Booth of the Salvation Army wished that he could dangle his salvationists over the fires of hell for 24 hours
    just to prepare them before he sent them forth. We read in Revelation chapter 1 verse 17 that the apostle John the beloved one fell at the feet as though dead. I sometimes think that in these days of ‘easy believism’ ie..”just ask Jesus into your heart and your in” is a lie …it’s a rather juiceless statement. How we really need an awareness and a conviction of our sin before we are ready to respond to the Gospel…..This can happen further down the line as you expose yourself to reading the scriptures. This is a massive subject but for me I’m fixing my eyes on the finished work of Christ. I’m still a work in progress. But to sum up ..”Nae shame….nae gain” there is a heaven to gain and through grace a hell to avoid.

  4. I was wondering if hell is, as it states in Psalm 81: 12 when God gives ‘them up to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices.’ It’s about separating yourself from God and following your own path without God. And whether you are aware of it or not, that is hell. And while I know we have the imagery of fire etc, I wonder if it is symbolic of the way it consumes you and destroys you, and separates you from God both in this life and the next.

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