12 Rules for Life – A Christian Perspective

A Review of Jordan Peterson’s latest book

(I have been asked so much about my article Is Jordan Peterson the New Messiah? on  and the book that I decided to forego  The Great Deception – Part 1 for this week and write a full review of 12 Rules for Life, complete with quotes so that you can judge  for yourselves –  Peterson is not a preacher but there are enough quotes here to keep a preacher happy for many sermons!  of course reading the book is better.  The following is my review from a Christian perspective.  I have to say it is a long time since I have been so excited about a book!)..

418XEBsiT-L._SX323_BO1,204,203,200_12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos is already a bestseller and deservedly so.  No. 1 on Australian Amazon, no. 3 in the UK, no.1 in the US…..I found it challenging, stimulating and frustrating. It is a wonderful mix of psychology, theology, history, narrative and social philosophy from someone who is clearly influenced by Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Freud, Jung and, above all, the Bible.

I want to briefly review each of the chapters – but first to make some general comments. The book is well written and the highest complement of all is simply that it is one of the few books I found to be unputdownable! I also stopped highlighting passages because there were so many.   The chapters are a bit uneven, and at times from my perspective, quite frustrating. It was as though we entered into a conversation and then just as it got interesting – we stopped! Peterson’s great forte is his ability to analyse the problem. His weakness is his solutions, which largely only go part of the way. I was left saying ‘Yes, but’ a lot! However if there is a more stimulating thinker and writer in the secular world, I have yet to meet them! (In the Christian world I would suggest that Os Guinness and Tim Keller are on the same wavelength and have the same abilities as Peterson). Nevertheless as Dr Norman Doidge says in the introduction about Peterson: “People have kept listening because what he is saying meets a deep and unarticulated need.”

Each of the rules is a chapter – so lets have a brief look at each of them.

The Overture:

in his own introduction Peterson sets up the whole book nicely, by giving us an explanation of how it came to be. It’s clear that the Bible, Milton’s Paradise Lost, Goethe’s Faust and Dante’s Inferno as well as his fascination with the Cold War and totalitarian states; along with Nietzsche, Dostoevsky and Jung are the background to this work. There is one stunning quote that took my breath away!

“I knew that the cross was simultaneously, the point of greatest suffering, the point of death and transformation, and the symbolic centre of the world”.

 

Rule 1 Stand up straight with your shoulders back

This is the lobster chapter in which Peterson talks about nature and territory, the neurochemistry of defeat and victory, the principle of unequal distribution; and most fascinatingly of all, the nature of nature. He is basically suggesting that we have to rise up and take responsibility for ourselves.

“To stand up straight with your shoulders back is to accept the terrible responsibility of life”

Overall this was the most disappointing chapter. I felt it lacked humility, was too based on evolutionary psychology (I have no intention of looking at the ‘350 million year old lobster’ for inspiration), and was completely missing any real concept of sin.

 

Rule 2 Treat yourself like you would someone you are responsible for helping –

Here Peterson delves into the Creation story of the Bible. In particular he is interested in the concept of chaos, out of which order came.   He holds to the notion of Being, and of male and female, parent and child, being fundamentally part of our being (not just a social construct).   There is a duality between the order we inhabit and the chaos that surrounds it.   He then gets the idea of sin – the snake within.

The worst of all possible snakes is the eternal human proclivity for evil. The worst of all possible snakes is psychological, spiritual, personal, internal. No wall, however tall, will keep that out”

He then goes on to look at the idea of nakedness, good and evil and especially the human capacity for wrongdoing. There is no ‘humans are basically good’ here.  He asks what is to be done – and speaks of Christ’s death as an example of how to sacrifice ourselves to God.   His solution is that we copy Christ’s example and try to make the world more like heaven than hell. It is a fascinating chapter but at the end of the day it is just moralistic, therapeutic deism.   The problem is identified – the solution doesn’t work!

 

Rule 3 Make friends with people who want the best for you –

Here he talks about self-worth, his own up-bringing, the selfish motives we have when we ‘save’ someone; he suggests we should surround ourselves with good healthy people and have some humility and courage to learn from them.   He suggests that before we help people in need we should not just assume that they are ‘noble victims of unjust circumstance and exploitation” – indeed to do so, and to deny them all agency is to strip them of all power.   Again and interesting, insightful and stimulating chapter – but Christless.

 

Rule 4 Compare yourself with who you were yesterday, not with who someone else is today –

This chapter is about how we compare ourselves to others and how that is such a pointless game.   He challenges us to be truthful, dangerous and to think about what we want and what we see; to replace our negative desires which are never fulfilled with something else (this reminded me of the expulsive power of a new affection).  He argues that no one is really an atheist – that we don’t really know ourselves and are too complex to understand ourselves.

“You don’t understand anything. You didn’t even know that you were born blind.”

He talks about the Bible (although he does not grasp the role of the Holy Spirit in inspiring it) and the Old Testament God and the New Testament God – and in effect argues for the biblical position that they are the same.   He cites the Sermon on the Mount and tells us to pay attention, to open our eyes.   I thought this was a brilliant chapter – the best so far.

Who but the most naïve among us would posit that such an all-good merciful Being ruled this so-terrible world? But something that seems incomprehensible to someone unseeing might be perfectly evident to someone who had opened his eyes. “ “Faith is not the childish belief in magic. That is ignorance or even willful blindness”.

Rule 5 Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them –

This is a brilliant chapter on parenting. He argues convincingly that adults have become infantilised and are terrified by their children.   He argues that damage by omission (children being ignored) is as bad as damage by commission (abuse). This includes when we fail to teach, correct and discipline them. We are to be parents not friends.

“It is an act of responsibility to discipline a child. It is not anger or misbehaviour. It is not revenge for a misdeed. It is instead a careful combination of mercy and long-term judgement”.

He explains why children should be subject to adults – especially their parents and why that is best for the child.

“If a child have not been taught to behave properly by the age of four, it will forever be difficult for him or her to make friends”.

He then gives us some basic principles of child rearing.   Limit the rules; use minimum necessary force; parents should come in pairs; parents should understand their own capacity to be harsh, vengeful, arrogant, resentful, angry and deceitful; parents have a duty to act as merciful proxies for the real world.

This is an outstanding chapter. I would print it as a standalone and give it to every parent!

Rule 6 Set your house in perfect order before you criticise the world

“How can a person who is awake avoid outrage at the world?”

The anger of many people is rational – and sometimes results in the shaking of the fist at God. Peterson asks should we take revenge on a cruel world or should we seek transformation?   Tolstoy and especially Solzhenitsyn feature prominently in this chapter.   In a superb insight Peterson argues from the history of Israel –

“A hurricane is an act of God. But failure to prepare, when the necessity for preparation is well known – that’s sin. That’ failure to hit the mark. And the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). The ancient Jews always blamed themselves when things fell apart. They acted as if God’s goodness – the goodness of reality – was axiomatic, and took responsibility for their own failure. That’s insanely responsible. But the alternative is to judge reality as insufficient, to criticise Being itself, and to sink into resentment and the desire for revenge”. 

He then suggests that, using our own standards of judgement; we need to clean up our own lives.

Set your house in perfect order before you clean up the world”.

Its good advice – except for one thing – we can’t! The snake is in too deep. We need cleansing. We need redemption. We need reborn

Rule 7 Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)­ –

Life is suffering.   This is Peterson’s correct observation from the micro (his own life), to the macro (the great totalitarian regimes of the 20th Century) and from the Bible.   How do we cope with suffering? Many people pursue pleasure and live for the moment, for ourselves.   He suggests that there is an alternative.   He talks about sacrifice as the delay of gratification. Its better to have something that to have nothing. Its better to share. And its better to be known for sharing – especially by God, who is pleased with our sharing. We need to sacrifice (like Christ) in order to gain. (He who wants to keep his life will lose it; he who gives it will gain).   Again this chapter is largely based Peterson’s understanding of the biblical story of Adam and Eve, Abraham and Christ.

Evil enters the world with self-consciousness…Earthquakes, floods, poverty, cancer – we’re tough enough to take on all of that. But human evil adds a whole new dimension of misery to the world. It is for this reason that the rise of self-consciousness and its attendant realisation o f mortality and the knowledge of God and Evil is presented in the early chapters of Genesis (and in the vast tradition that surrounds them) as a cataclysm of cosmic magnitude”.

He cites Jung – “No tree can grow to heaven, unless its roots reach down to hell”.  

Some of Peterson’s insights in this chapter are breath taking:

He talks about the meaning of Christ’s encounter with Satan in the desert;

“ It means that Christ is forever he who determines to take personal responsibility for the full depth of human depravity It means that Christ is eternally He who is willing to confront and deeply consider and risk the temptation posed by the most malevolent elements of human nature. It means that Christ is always he who is willing to confront evil – consciously, fully and voluntarily – in the form that dwelt simultaneously within Him and in the world. This is nothing merely abstract (although it is abstract); nothing to be brushed over. It’s no merely intellectual matter.”

 

“Satan embodies the refusal of sacrifice; he is arrogance, incarnate; spite, deceit, and cruel, conscious malevolence. He is pure hatred of Man, God and Being. He will not humble himself, even when he knows full well he should”.

 

“Christianity achieved the well nigh impossible. The Christian doctrine elevated the individual soul, placing slave and master and commoner and nobleman alike on the same metaphysical footing, rendering them equal before God and the law”.

The latter part of the chapter is superb – discussing the struggles that Nietzsche had with Christianity and the whole question of doubt. Nietzsche taught that because of ‘the death of God’ humans would have to invent their own values, but as Jung discovered,

“we cannot invent our own values, because we cannot merely impose what we believe on our soul”

But we need ideas. We need values.   We need to understand and cope with suffering.   This is the cornerstone of Peterson’s philosophy.

“What can I not doubt? The reality of suffering. It brooks no argument. Nihilists cannot undermine it with scepticism. Totalitarians cannot banish it. Cynics cannot escape from its reality. Suffering is real, and the artful infliction of suffering on another, for its own sake, is wrong. That became the cornerstone of my belief”. 

If there is something that is not good, then there is something that is good. And that is what we must seek for. It is the search for meaning.

This is such a brilliant chapter. Thrilling. And yet it too misses the mark! It is going the right direction and asks all the right questions but because he doesn’t get the concept of atonement, he doesn’t get how to deal with sin and that meaning is found ultimately and only in Christ.

Rule 8 Tell the truth – or, at least, don’t lie

Using personal story and his clinical experience Peterson argues for the importance of truth telling. We all tend to use words to manipulate and many, if not most or all of us, live a life-lie.

Someone living a life lie is attempting to manipulate reality with perception, thought and action, so that only some narrowly desired and pre-defined outcome is allowed to exist. A life lived in this manner is based, consciously or unconsciously, on two premises. The first is that current knowledge is sufficient to define what is good, unquestioningly far into the future. The second is that reality would be unbearable if left to its own devices.”

“This kind of oversimplification and falsification is particularly typical of ideologues. They adopt a single axiom: government is bad, immigration is bad, capitalism is bad, patriarchy is bad. Then they filter and screen their experiences and insist ever more narrowly that everything can be explained by that axiom. They believe, narcissistically underneath all that bad theory, that the world could be put right, if only they held the controls”. 

It’s a brilliant insight.   As is this:

“If you betray yourself, if you say untrue things, if you act out a lie you weaken your character. If you have a weak character, then adversity will mow you down when it appears, as it will, inevitably. You will hide, but there will be no place left to hide. And then you will find yourself doing terrible things.”

His insights into the effects of a deceitful life from Frankl, Freud and Jung are superb.

“Deceitful, inauthentic individual existence is the precursor to social totalitarianism”  

 

“Lucifer is, therefore the spirit of totalitarianism. He is flung from Heaven into Hell because such elevation, such rebellion against the Highest and Incomprehensible, inevitably produces Hell.   To say it again: it is the greatest temptation of the rational faculty to glorify its won capacity and its own production and to claim that in the face of its theories nothing transcendent or outside its domain need exist.”

Hell is lies and deceit and disintegration.   Truth is essential.   This following quote is long but stunning:

“At the beginning of time, according to the great Western tradition, the Word of God transformed chaos into Being through the act of speech. It is axiomatic, within that tradition, that man and woman alike are made in the image of that God. We also transform chaos into Being, through speech. We transform the manifold possibilities of the future into the actualities of past and present. To tell the truth is to bring the most habitable reality into Being. Truth builds edifices that can stand a thousand years. Truth feeds and clothes the poor, and makes nations wealthy and safe. Truth reduces the terrible complexity of a man to the simplicity of his word, so that he can become a partner, rather than an enemy. Truth makes the past truly past, and makes the best of the future’s possibilities. Truth is the ultimate, inexhaustible natural resource. It’s the light in the darkness. See the truth. Tell the truth.’

To which I can only add the words of Christ: “I am the way, the truth and the life. Know the truth and the truth shall set you free”!

Rule 9 Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don’t

This chapter talks about psychotherapy and the difference between it and advice. Peterson stresses the importance of listening and of figuring things out for yourself if possible.

Carl Rogers: “The great majority of us cannot listen; we find ourselves compelled to evaluate, because listening is too dangerous The first requirement is courage, and we do not always have it”.

He then talks about various types of conversation and the importance again of seeking truth. This is one of the thinner chapters.

Rule 10 Be precise in your speech

This is a chapter concerned with perception and the use of words to convey meaning.

When we look at the world, we perceive only what is enough for our plans and actions to work for us and to get by.”

We need a wider perspective – to see the ‘yesterdays and tomorrows’. The fact is that the simple world is simple only when it behaves and likewise ourselves.

Everything is intricate beyond imagining. Everything is affected by everything else. We perceive a very narrow slice of a causally connected matrix, although we strive with all our might to avoid being confronted by knowledge of that narrowness. The thin veneer of perceptual sufficiency cracks, however, when something fundamental goes wrong. The dreadful inadequacy of our senses reveals itself. Everything we hold dear crumbles to dust. We freeze. We turn to stone. What then do we see? Where can we look, when it is precisely what we see that has been insufficient?”  

What do we see when we don’t know what we are looking at? Underneath the surface there is chaos.   His section on wheat from chaff and the importance of words is stunning….overall this is a brilliant chapter, not least because this is Peterson’s great strength – deep thinking expressed in clear, precise speech.

Rule 11 Do not bother children when they are skate-boarding

This quirkily entitled chapter argues that we should be permitted to push the boundaries, to explore and to try to understand why people do things, what is the motivation? He illustrates this using personal examples and George Orwell’s Road to Wigan Pier. He is especially concerned about the way boys are treated and how they are effectively excluded from many university disciplines.

He talks about the consequences of this and the hook-up culture for both men and women.

A stable, loving relationship is highly desirable for men as well as women”.   And yet as he points out “marriage is now something increasingly reserved for the rich. I can’t help finding that amusing in a blackly ironic manner. The oppressive patriarchal institution of marriage has now become a luxury. Why would the rich tyrannise themselves?”

He laments the oppressiveness of the political correctness culture in Universities and discusses the tendency to blame many of societies ills on ‘the patriarchy’.   And then in a brilliant section he moves on to discuss the link between postmodernism and Marx and the way that postmodern philosophy has done enormous harm by seeking to erase the distinction between men and women.

This then brings him on to discuss the current attempt to remove all gender distinctions – at least any that are based on biology.

Gender is constructed, but an individual who desires gender re-assignment surgery is to be unarguably considered a man trapped in a woman’s body (or vice versa). The fact that both of these cannot logically be true, simultaneously, is just ignored (or rationalised away with another appalling post-modern claim: at logic itself – along with the techniques of science – is merely part of the oppressive patriarchal system).

   The next section looking at the dangers of disregarding the differences between male and female, compassion as a vice and the Oedipal Mother – is superb. The analysis of Disney’s Sleeping Beauty is both amusing and insightful.

His appeal to men to “toughen up you weasel” could be misunderstood if taken in the wrong way. But it makes perfect sense in this context. “If they’re healthy, women don’t want boys. They want men. They want someone to contend with, someone to grapple with.”

This again is one of those standalone, print by itself, chapters…Worth the price of the book alone!

Rule 12 Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street

This is a deeply moving chapter talking about suffering – especially the suffering of his daughter. The only way to cope with suffering is to grasp Being…

“Christ enjoins his followers to place faith in God’s Heavenly Kingdom, and the truth. That’s a conscious decision to presume the primary goodness of Being. That’s an act of courage.”

Coda –

He summarises it all in this coda.

What shall I do with my life? Aim for Paradise and concentrate on today.”

What does all this mean? Orient yourself properly. Then – and only then – concentrate on the day. Set your sights at the Good, the Beautiful, and the True, and then focus pointedly and carefully on the concerns of each moment. Aim continually at Heaven while you work diligently on Earth. Attend fully to the future, in that manner, while attending fully to the present. Then you have the best chance of perfecting both”

What shall I do with my wife? Treat her as if she is the Holy Mother of God…”

And so on with similar advice to himself and us about his daughter, the stranger and educating his people.

What shall I do for God my Father? Sacrifice everything I hold dear to yet greater perfection”

(Is this not really what is means to give our lives to Christ….all I once held dear…knowing you Jesus, knowing you…there is no greater thing!”

“What shall I do when greed consumes me? Remember that it is more better to give than to receive”

“What shall I do when I ruin my rivers? Seek for the living water and let it cleanse the earth. “ (And who is the living water?!)….

What shall I do in the next dire moment? Focus my attention on the next right move.”

And there is more of these type of questions:

Conclusion:

This is a brilliant book. I admire and am fascinated by Peterson. And like so many I am grateful to him, because he has helped me. Unlike thousands, I am not claiming that he has saved my life (there is only one Saviour), but he has been used to help.   However although the book is brilliant it is still missing the one thing needful…

One of the most frustrating things about 12 Rules for Life is that Peterson sometimes gets so close. His analysis of the problem is often superb, but his understanding of the answer is somewhat limited. Whilst the 12 Rules are actually helpful – especially when you read the reasoning behind them – as Christians we already have the Ten Commandments, which are a far better basis. But we also have a far better solution.   The way to get order out of chaos is to have the One who brings order out of chaos. Christ.

jordanpetersonJordan Peterson is a sincere, intelligent, compassionate human being who, in his search for the truth, sometimes gets closer than many professing Christians. Anyone who can write ‘I knew that the cross was simultaneously the point of greatest suffering, the point of death and transformation, and the symbolic centre of the world’ is not far from the Kingdom! But he is not the Messiah. He is not even a follower of the Messiah. He just needs the Messiah. As do we all….those who seek Him will find Him. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life, the Light, the Living Water, the Logos, the Love and the way out of Chaos, which Peterson so brilliantly describes and so movingly illustrates. I thank God for Jordan Peterson and for this book, because it raised questions to which the only real answer can be Christ. Read, learn, seek and find the Eternal Life.

David Robertson

Dundee

25th January 2018

PS.  I should have put this caveat in earlier – this review is based on how I understood the book and of course I may be wrong. Any misunderstandings of Peterson are of course entirely my fault – not his!   If you can I would suggest you read it for yourself – its well worth the effort!

PPS – One of my atheist friends pointed out that I should have said that Peterson connects with everyone irrespective of faith.  He is correct so now I have done!

PPS – Somebody attacked Peterson claiming he was ‘cold’ and ‘dispassionate’.  Unbelievable!  Watch this wonderful short video to see Peterson’s heart…

 

 


15 thoughts on “12 Rules for Life – A Christian Perspective

  1. Wow – not so much for the book (which I have not read) but for David’s very fulsome praise. My comments therefore are solely on David’s comments and I comment solely because of how, as the influential man that he is, David’s comments will impact his Christian milieu .

    I can see from David’s comments and quotes that this is clearly a clever book but that, as David says, it is deism at best (or just plain deceitful humanism drawing on biblical themes as cultural myths). Is this important? I have never been one to remain in a holy huddle or fail to engage with the world; indeed Christians I know would say I play too fast and loose. But the elements David has selected suggest the book is far more dangerous than he suggests.

    The book’s title and its contents, as selected above, suggest it is yet another self-help book that the world and Christians devour. If so, we should see it as such. But since it seems effortlessly to cast its net across all areas of life, thought and society (as Gore Vidal might), it will be too seductive for that.

    Having registered that scepticism, I nevertheless heartily agree with Calvin that we need to understand ourselves as best we can and there are truths in history, literature, psychology, even in films as well as in the bible. I can see that this is where Peterson probably offers the most. But my response to David’s selection is either (i) we already know that; or (ii) we already know that Peterson is wrong on that. However there are also some which (iii) are at least thought-provoking and often amusing even if not new. Some selections from David’s choice selections as follows

    (i) we already knew that
    1. Don’t compare yourself with others

    (ii) we already know that to be wrong
    2. Robertson/Peterson commendation that “The ancient Jews always blamed themselves when things fell apart”.Certainly we should avoid victimhood, but did not Jesus correct the disciples for their conclusions about the tower of Siloam. Suffering is the result of the fall, not always man’s sin – a volcano engulfing a city
    3. “No tree can grow to heaven, unless its roots reach down to hell” This is more nonsense than wrong
    4. “The Christian doctrine elevated the individual soul, placing slave and master and commoner and nobleman alike on the same metaphysical footing, rendering them equal before God and the law”. Not quite – Christian doctrine renders all men equally accountable before God but it is only rebirth that works anything metaphysical
    5. “Evil enters the world with self-consciousness” This does not square with Genesis. It was self-centredness surely that brought in evil. Self-awareness might just be the very part of being made in the image of God that allows us to relate to Him
    6. ““What shall I do with my wife? Treat her as if she is the Holy Mother of God…” Yikes!

    (iii) thought-provoking and amusing, but can probably be found elsewhere
    7. Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them (This was good but needs analysis)
    8. Do not bother children when they are skate-boarding
    9 Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street (amusingly zen for the older ones of us)
    10. “if you act out a lie you weaken your character. If you have a weak character, then adversity will mow you down when it appears” This is perhaps the most helpful/only insight from David’s selection, although even there, it might be a little too outside-in as with the Stoics of old (a sort of sepulchre white washing, though that is a little harsh of me!)

    My impression, from and indeed because of David’s comments, is that this book is too much a book of the world, and Peterson’s ready use of Christian symbols only make it more bewitching. The biggest deceptions are those which err only slightly from the truth. They are the ones promising the polished apple of knowledge. I may read the book, but with very dark glasses of caution. Ironically I hope the book is good but in a very different way to the way David sees it!

    A theologically liberal friend has said that the Peterson interview on Channel 4 portrays him as having more of substance to say than David’s analysis. But David’s comments have ironically prompted me to dig out my dark glasses before watching that too

      1. Thank you for the link. I have watched the original Channel 4 interview with Cathy Newman and will watch the 5Live next

        Newman’s interview technique was neither attractive nor effective though against a less thought-through interviewee, her bullying would have worked

        Peterson was impressive but there was something slightly disturbing, certainly ungospel, about his ‘push for power’ message which reminded me of Nietzsche. I’m wondering how much of what Peterson is saying would be found in the mind or mouth of Jesus

  2. Thanks for the review David, I’ve requested my wife order me a copy for my birthday 🙂

    I found out about Jordan Peterson about a year ago from a video posted on facebook. I then watched his lectures on youtube and was impressed by his common sense and well articulated arguments and lessons, with the ocassional biblical element here and there. However I started getting a little worried about the extreme right wing following he was getting (I guess only natural as a vocal opponent of the extreme left wing) so I stopped watching his content. I’m glad hes back in the spotlight again now (mainly because of that train crash of an interview on channel 4 went viral) as its allowed me to find out a bit more about him. Its good to know hes certainly not an advocate for the extreme right, and if anything he’s managed to turn many of those young men away from those far right ideals towards more centre thinking. Hopefully he’ll be able to garner a more mainstream following now and even if he doesn’t fully explain the wonderful truth of the bible he’ll certainly get a lot of people thinking about it and heading on the right path.

  3. David, I’m a big fan of William Lane Craig. Here is a debate with Jordan Peterson with WLC. WLC as the christian has a solution to the problem…..check it out

  4. David,

    Here is William Lane Craig having a debate on the meaning of life with JP.

    Here is what one watcher said ‘William Lane Craig gave the only sufficient responses, and offered the only viable solution to finding meaning and purpose in life. Atheism is bankrupt in that area. Creating your own subjective meaning for a season (when you as human bacteria have no intrinsic value or worth) does not offer people anything except depression. Was here to see it and it was wonderful to see the Theistic worldview produce adequate responses over and over again.’

    Check it out

  5. Dr. Jordan Peterson is deeply, angrily hostile to the idea of a literal supernatural God. This can be seen in his January 26, 2018 debate with evangelical philosopher Dr. William Lane Craig, which can be see on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDDQOCXBrAw&t=4315s In that debate, Dr. Peterson responded to Dr. Craig’s promotion of theism by saying: “That’s the devil himself speaking” (see 1:11:55 in the video timeline). In another video, Dr. Peterson says: “What I think about religion is very Darwinian. I think religion is an evolved–it’s evolved knowledge.” (See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Ys4tQPRis&t=1227s ) Dr. Peterson is no friend or ally to Christ or Christians, despite what many people think. Dr. Peterson is just as hostile to Jesus Christ as were men like Nietzsche, Marx, Darwin, and Freud. Dr. Peterson is a very ferocious wolf who very skillfully dresses himself up in sheep’s clothing.

  6. Peterson has far more traction with the secular than the church, on important matters of common concern to the church. Those causes are are furthered by Peterson and we should thank God for raising him up.
    I am wary, however, of his influence on Christians, with sub- Christian influences on him and citings, (from the likes of Jung) as mentioned by other commentators, Richard UK above.
    But if read with discernment, as recommended by you and if we support the view that all truth is from God, God honouring, there seems to be much that Christians can beneficially glean from his book and work, particularly as a Clinical psychologist. One key element in cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) is the knowlege that there is a thought before there is a feeling, that feelings come from thoughts, even if they can not be readily identified identified at the time, that the thought may have come as a result of something, maybe a day or two earlier, with delayed onset feelings. It can take some time and person honouring deep listening to uncover the thought(s), they can be in deep, part of the fabric of their personhood often based on a lie. From a Christian view point there would need to be pastoral, renewing of the mind with the washing of the word.
    Also key in CBT is challenging the thought by asking, what is the evidence for the thought – is it true? Here, life circumstances and personal history play a huge part. And again, as Peterson emphasises another key aspect is the small (sometimes extremely small) step approach starting from where the person is now, not where they should be or once were.
    The following seems to be a worthwhile contribution from Alastair Roberts on things pastors can learn from Peterson, well worth some time in my view.
    https://alastairadversaria.com/2018/01/27/what-pastors-could-learn-from-jordan-peterson/
    Will I buy the book? Maybe, if it comes out in paperback.

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