Led 12 – The Scottish Episcopal Church – Archbishop Welby – Peter Hitchens Category Error – The Denver Statement – Wilton Park and Government Religion – Christy Wimber – Tom Petty

Light Engaging Darkness  12 – 

Because I hope to be on a break when this goes out I thought I would ‘schedule’ a wee bit different ‘LED’…. this week we are going to look at some of the major issues facing the church rather than the culture.

  • The Scottish Episcopal Church.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/27/scottish-church-faces-consequences-vote-allow-same-sex-marriage/

I have some good friends in the SEC who are really hurting over this foolish and unbiblical decision.   The ‘sanctions’ being proposed by the wider Anglican Communion are weak, ineffective and merely administrative. The Anglican Church is officially distancing itself from biblical and historic Christianity. Those who snidely remark, ‘what do you expect? It’s the Anglicans?’ are wrong. Anglicanism in this country has often been a great blessing – and in other countries continues to be so. Which is why it is so sad to see how the Mighty have fallen. Please pray for those who are faithful Christians within the Anglican Church in Scotland – as they seek to stand for the truth of God’s Word and the honour, glory and love of Christ.

I loved this quote from the Archbishop of Uganda…

“Archbishop “The British sent missionaries to Africa in the 19th Century telling us to trust the Bible as the Word of God, now they are telling us not to”

An Important Vote – The SEC on SSM

  • The Archbishop of Canterbury –

 Speaking of weak and ineffective, it was so disappointing to hear Justin Welby, who to Justin Welbymy mind comes across as a good man, being so weak and evasive when he was asked the shibboleth question ‘is gay sex sin?’ by Alaister Campbell. I know that this is a difficult question to answer, because of the accusatory pre-suppositions behind it, but nonetheless it was still disappointing to hear his response – https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/02/justin-welby-unable-to-give-straight-answer-on-whether-gay-sex-is-sinful

I sentCampbell a copy of how to answer that question.  Is Gay Sex a Sin? His response was revealing – “mmm. Not sure many interviewers give you the time. I thought JW was honestly giving his complicated opinion”.   We don’t need ‘complicated’ opinions from a church leader. We need straightforward biblical answers – even (especially?) if they go against the cultural zeitgeist.

  • Peter Hitchens’s Category Error

Peter Hitchens is brilliant. A great communicator, a sharp mind and superb analysis of society. I love listening to him and reading him. He is also a darling for American downloadreligious conservatives. Apart from the accent, they love the plain speaking and the outrage and the traditionalism.   But he doesn’t always get it right – especially when it comes to the heart of Christianity. Take for example this recent Hitchens tweet –

“Category error, Religion, whether it be Atheism, Christianity or Islam, is about beliefs, not facts”.

This is self-evident nonsense – or at least for anyone who professes to follow the Christ of the Bible. If it is not a fact that Christ is risen from the dead, as Paul argues in 1 Corinthians 15, then we are ‘of all people to be pitied’. Having belief or ‘faith’ in something without facts is absurd.   If he meant we cannot know all the facts, or that reason is not the only thing we use or need, then he would have been right – but the statement as it stands is just illogical and wrong. Little wonder that my old sparring partner, Scott McKenna, ‘liked’ it!

  • The Denver Statement

Speaking of nonsense – this came as a counter to the Nashville Statement from Nadia Bolz-Weber’s House for All Sinners and Saints.

“Christians are living in a beautiful, liberating, unholy period of historic transition where culture has embarked upon a massive revision of what it means to be a human being by expanding the limits and definitions previously imposed by fundamentalist Christians.”

Weakness, wetness and factlessness are bad enough. But this goes a step lower towards the pit.   Rather than Christ being the head of the Church and him teaching us through his Word, now we have the church being urged to follow the culture. The culture is now the salt and light of the church rather than vice versa. If the salts loses its savour then it is only fit to be thrown into the fire!

  • The Government Religion.

One thing that our ‘establishment’ Christians share in common is the view that they are there as the religious arm of the State. This is why they go along with whatever the state doctrine happens to be (whilst pontificating about being ‘radical’, ‘helping the poor’ etc.).   Of course the quid pro quo of this is that the State gets to tell the church what its doctrine should be. Wilton Park is part of the United Kingdom Foreign and Commonwealth Office and this year offered these guidelines – demanding that Queer theology be taught in seminaries.

http://www.wnd.com/2017/07/u-k-govt-demands-queer-theology-in-seminaries/

 

  1. Understanding of key religious texts which appear to perpetuate discrimination should be improved by using well reputed scholarly texts to challenge accepted versions e.g. the story of Sodom and Gomorrah from Genesis Chapter 19. A good example of a thoughtful scholarly based discussion of this story is ‘Breaking Open: Sodom and Gomorrah’ a 2016 booklet by Soulforce Inc.
  2. Queer theology, feminist theology and a theology of inclusion need wider currency, particularly in seminaries, in order to inform discussions around faith and LGBTI+ issues. Feminist theology can be used to challenge the anti-gender ideology of the religious right.

 

  1. The promotion of more creative ways to reread religious texts would do much to encourage a change of viewpoint. In addition, contemporary stories of repentance and change can be linked to biblical stories. 21. Providing young people with greater scriptural literacy would support them in challenging the interpretations of religious leaders. Brash truth telling can be of value.

 

  • Robo Priests.

If we have download-1given up on prophetic ministry and instead just settled for the pathetic, then why not go further? Why don’t we just automate the clergy? This story about robot Buddhist priests in Japan might be the way forward….

“Robot priests are the modern way to conduct funerals” – Michio Inamura of Nissei Eco CO. Ltd. told a press conference at the Life Ending industry Expo in Tokyo. “And can fulfill religious duties that are increasingly neglected in society. A traditional Japanese funeral costs in excess of £20,000, with human body sprays charging almost £1700 each to chant the necessary sutras and carry out other funeral rites. Whereas Pepper the robot, dressed in Buddhist robes, can chant in a computerised voice, bang a drum, fulfill the other duties, and even live stream the funeral to mourners who cannot attend, all for a fraction of that cost.”   (Private Eye)

  • Whose Church is it Anyway?

 It was recently reported in the Christian press that Christy Wimber, the lead pastor of Yorba Linda Vineyard in California, was closing the church because God had told her to. “Your assignment here is done’. And the church was closed.     She has now shifted to download-2training church planters.  This is another indication of where the Western church has become so anaemic and pathetic…I don’t know Christy and cannot comment on her personally, but I do know this – the church is not hers. The church belongs to Jesus Christ and his purpose is to build his church, not close it down when the pastor wants to move on and have a change of career. Christ will build his church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Maybe those of us who describe ourselves as church leaders, need to realise that we are at best just servants….. It is his church. He is the head. His Word is the standard and authority. His Spirit gives the power. And we have the sheer joy and pleasure of sharing in that.   That’s why we don’t leave his Word. That’s why we don’t just rely on our feelings. That’s why we don’t back down.

I leave you with one of my theme tunes…from the late great Mr Petty.  You can stand me up at the gates of Hell, but I won’t back down!

 

See you next week.

LED 11 – Las Vegas Shooting – Catalonia – Teddy Taylor – Runrig – Transgender Sperm Frozen – Art for Dogs Sake – Lidl Leaves out the Cross – Africa’s Green Wall – Luther’s Quote

 

 

 

Tom Petty – Free Fallin….I won’t back down.

 

 

 


7 thoughts on “Led 12 – The Scottish Episcopal Church – Archbishop Welby – Peter Hitchens Category Error – The Denver Statement – Wilton Park and Government Religion – Christy Wimber – Tom Petty

  1. You may well have seen this recent article by an SEC cleric. This quote gets to the heart of the matter, but the whole article is well worth reading:

    This then is the problem: if Jesus and every word he speaks, is not in every possible sense, the Truth and nothing but the Truth, to which nothing can be added or taken away; then he cannot be either the Way or the Life. Therefore this claim by the revisionists that we can revise Jesus’ words to say what we want them to say, rather than what they so plainly mean, is also to claim that Jesus is not divine, but just a man. This is Arianism, the heresy begun by Arius, which took root in the church for most of the fourth century.

    http://scottishanglican.net/secxit-or-why-i-must-leave-the-scottish-episcopal-church

  2. Thank you David for your helpful explanation of what’s happening in the church… and for standing up and speaking out!
    I am grateful for your service and ministry for Christ!

  3. Another very good article. I’m afraid I would be one of those inclined to say “what do you expect from the Anglicans?” Which would be utterly wrong of course, as you explained. To go slightly off topic; I finally got round to watching your debate with Scott McKenna and a clip from his ‘terrible theology’ sermon. Very interesting viewing; I found it quite shocking as well, which I didn’t expect. You were quite right to say that you would excommunicate him. Not many people would have the guts to say that. I have been to a few liberal churches in my time, but I have never come across a minister who believed that there is no Atonement through the blood of Jesus, that Jesus did not suffer to save us from our sins. I don’t understand what the purpose of being or calling oneself a Christian if one holds McKenna’s beliefs.

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